The Brick & Mortar Money ShowSeptember 19, 2023

Why and How You Should Embrace Conflict for Success: Insights from an Expert

In a captivating episode of The Entrepreneurial Agent Show, host Paul Neal interviews John Napier, an accomplished attorney at Hanger Law and co-director of PAX Napier. With over two decades of experience in the real estate industry, John shares valuable insights on conflict resolution, effective communication, and the role of struggle in personal and professional growth.

Embracing Conflict & Managing Difficult Conversations:

John and his wife Corrie are passionate about helping individuals and organizations navigate conflict in a healthy and productive manner. They emphasize that conflict is inevitable and avoiding it can lead to missed opportunities for growth and dysfunction within organizations. Instead, they encourage listeners to embrace conflict and view it as an opportunity for refining decisions and making better choices.

The Butterfly Metaphor:

To illustrate the importance of struggle, John employs the metaphor of a butterfly emerging from a cocoon. Just as the butterfly needs to overcome resistance to strengthen its wings, individuals and businesses can harness conflict to foster growth and resilience. By reframing conflict as a catalyst for development, John inspires his audience to embrace challenges and find solutions.

The Benefits of Conflict Engagement:

John highlights the crucial role of conflict engagement in achieving healthier organizations. He explains that when individuals at all levels learn to effectively engage with and work through conflict, it creates an environment that encourages collaboration, innovation, and personal development. By addressing conflicts head-on, organizations can foster a culture of open communication and create sustainable success.

Mediation Training & Consulting:

John and Corrie's expertise lies in mediation training and consulting, where they help individuals and organizations develop the skills necessary to navigate conflict situations effectively. With their extensive experience, they provide valuable guidance on managing difficult conversations and fostering a healthy conflict resolution process. Their work extends to clients both in the United States and internationally, recognizing that conflict is a universal human experience.


In this thought-provoking episode of The Entrepreneurial Agent Show, John Napier offers a fresh perspective on conflict resolution and its significance in personal and professional growth. By embracing conflict, engaging in effective communication, and seeking opportunities for mediation training and consulting, individuals and organizations can develop the skills needed to navigate conflict and ultimately achieve long-term success. Join host Paul Neal as he delves deeper into this illuminating conversation with John Napier.

About John Napier:

Experienced Attorney and Partner with a demonstrated history of working in the law, entrepreneurship, and Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR) industry. Skilled in Negotiation, Municipal Entitlements and Appeals, International Law, and Alternative Dispute Resolution (Mediation and Arbitration). Strong business development professional with a Master of Dispute Resolution focused in International Dispute Resolution from Pepperdine School of Law.

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Meet the Host:

Paul Neal is the founder and Principal Funding Strategist at Vantage Point Commercial Capital, a firm that focuses on helping entrepreneurs, businesses, and real estate investors win by funding their growth and dreams in nontraditional ways. 

Paul’s unique perspective has been honed over 30 years as an entrepreneur, financial strategist, professional speaker, and executive coach. He took the road less traveled choosing to leave engineering right out of college to become a serial entrepreneur. From great early successes in the 90s and 2000s, to completely losing his primary business in the Great Recession of 2008, to bouncing back and just recently selling another business for a healthy 7-figure sum…he’s experienced it all. Paul offers a wealth of experience and passion to the entrepreneurial community in an engaging, upbeat, encouraging, and witty way. 

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